93..86 eeprom with 16 bit data

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93..86 eeprom with 16 bit data

Postby nitrogrease » Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:27 pm

Hello,

I've been using a RevelProg IS for some time now and it works great. I'm trying to read a 93..86 series eeprom that I believe has 16 bit data. The data should contain VIN numbers for a Subaru but it doesn't appear to. Am I pulling it off in the wrong format or something?

I've attached a bin file of what I'm getting.

Thanks!
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Re: 93..86 eeprom with 16 bit data

Postby ArT » Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:56 am

It looks like file is corrupted, many reapated values. Do you reading it in adapter/socket or in circuit? If you reading it in circuit please read it in socket, maybe there is other ongoing transmission (e.g. between eeprom and mcu) where you are trying read it in circuit and there is bus conflict

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Re: 93..86 eeprom with 16 bit data

Postby nitrogrease » Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:48 am

Hello ArT,

Thanks for your reply. I am reading it in circuit and at 3.3v. I don't have the ability to remove the chip and read it in socket. Is there any way to get it to read in circuit? I have attached a photo of the board and circled the chip I'm trying to read.

If I remember correctly I've seen where possibly discharging the capacitors on the board could help in this situation. Is that true?

Thanks!
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Re: 93..86 eeprom with 16 bit data

Postby ArT » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:32 pm

What voltage is on chip when you connect power supply to ECU? I'm asking because 93xx series are usually for 5V and 3v3 maybe to low. You can try with higher voltage but first you need to make sure that all chips around will be fine with higher voltage. But if you have bus conflict (MCU is communicating with eeprom as fast as you connect power supply to it) then it's nothing you can do - only disconnecting eeprom from board. Discharging capacitors won't help, when you connect power supply to eeprom it will power all circuit around (connected to the same power line). I recommend to identify this chip exactly and check what voltage range is required for read/write - some 93xx needs minimum 4.5V, some 93xx allows programming as low as 2.5 volts - depends on variant and manufacturer. It's quite easy to desolder this chip with hotair gun, a lot of space around

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Re: 93..86 eeprom with 16 bit data

Postby nitrogrease » Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:45 pm

Hello,

I tried different voltages but none seemed to work. It looks like desoldering is the only option at this point.

Thanks for your help!


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